Very sweet (like the inside of a burnt marshmellow). [15], More recently, in 2015, Powers Signature Release won a gold medal in the category Irish Single Pot Still Whiskey at the Irish Whiskey Awards. [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. Im sorry but if not drinking a brand of whiskey for some very spurious political reason, and claiming drinking Bushmills somehow condones an Irishman losing his land seems pretty idiotic to me. Who really cares. FoinahYou nailed it. Heres the real question why does everyone insist on handing us shots of jameson late night in colorado? in response to Irish whiskey is it catholic or protestant is irrelevant it is who is drinking it. Whiskey and Cocktails Uisce Beatha or Water of Life has been distilled in Ireland for many centuries and possibly even for millennia. Click here to learn how to make this and other drinks for a slushie machine! wear my orange on St. Patricks Look for a new addition to the landscape, The Irishman Original Clan & Single Malt. Im after trying many whiskies and Jamesons Gold is my current favourite, if a bit spendy. From the outset of the Reformation, Luther and his associates had fiercely proclaimed the Christian's obligation to "be subject to the governing authorities," asserting, with Saint Paul, that "the powers that be are ordained by God . You claim that it is an Irish-American phenomenon, however up in the six counties Catholics drink Jameson and Prod-Brits drink Bushmills there is even a bit of violence attached to it. March 17, 2016 / 1:00 PM / CBS San Francisco. Bushmills also provides single malt for Powers, while Midleton (where many of teh Irish whiskies are produced) provides grain whiskey for the Bushmills blends. Jamesons too is lovely. I serve it in Texas to my St. Patricks day guests and several times a year otherwise. It was their house label Irish before it was readily available in the US. As for the Tullamore Dew, it actually is the perfect mingling of North & South, since the pot still & grain comes from Midleton in Cork and the single malt is distilled at Bushmills (then aged down at LDI). Irish for the whiskey I took a fifth of Bushmills with me in my checked luggage. Simple business transaction where both sides benefit. Over and out. top off with chilled pulpy orange juice, AND stir lightly .. Only if you are an idiot! I visited Bushmills Distillery, and they were bottling both Bushmills and Jameson in the same facility!! [4] In addition, Barnard was high in his praise for Powers whiskey, noting:[4]. ID was purchased by Pernod Ricard in 1988 and they sold off Bushmills to Diageo in 2005. (Ref. Next Post Xante Pear Liqueur (Not A Sex Toy). Thanks all for your comments. Or champagne to protest Frankish aggression against the Gallo Romans. But generally, if you like it sweet, you like Jamesons products (including Redbreast, 1780, and Powers) If you like it dry, youll prefer the Busmills lineup. There will always be a few zealots who do, but from my knowledge, both Bushmills and Jamesons are enjoyed by people of both faiths. OK, OK, can be pretty good and certainly much cheaper. Raised going to church every goddamned Sunday. I was a bartender in NY in the early 90s and in 98 moved to Kinsale Cork and bartended their for 4 yrs. You may see the Co. Offaly whiskey grow even more now that William Grant & Sons owns it, and will be building the new distillery soon. So any Americans who believe this, should change to Murphys at once. Though it is good to remember that Bushmills & Jameson were selling about even worldwide up until the mid/late 1990s, before Pernod decided to put all of its eggs in the Jameson basket. One more thing Since Pernod Ricard shut down the grain stills at the old Bushmills distillery, all of the grain whiskey in Bushmills is from Middleton! Wow, this was such a fun read through. Then I must be the luckiest Arab in all o Ireland!. I went to the Distillery in Tullamore(now a museum for the whiskey), it is now produced in Middleton, although it is no longer owned by Pernod-Ricard. [8] This was a notable departure for the firm, as for many years the big Dublin distilling dynasties had shunned the use of Coffey stills, questioning if their output, grain whiskey, could even be termed whiskey. catholic - from the Greek adjective (katholikos), meaning "universal". I rag on about political whisky to those who are green only on the 17th and 18th of March.Hell, I even Class dismissed. There was an Irish-American lobby group headed by a politician that was running for mayor that started a whole anti-Bushmills campaign in San Francisco in the early 90s claiming that the company never hired Catholics, a convenient attract Irish-American votes. Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? McNulty comes back with aw, thats Protestant whiskey! Grudgingly, he accepts, but asks for it neat. It wasnt an issue about who owns what. My post was simple stating that the problem still exists. Holy moly, Paid 10 Euro for a shot of it in Dublin, and well worth the price. Like seriously you hate us so much you wont drink our whiskey??? The old make, which we drank with our luncheon, was delicious, and finer than anything we had hitherto tasted. Robber jumps out of an alley, holds up a gun, and says, Are you a Protestant or a Catholic? Man says, Neither, Im a jew. Robber thinks for a moment, says, but are you a Protestant Jew or a Catholic Jew?, are you a Protestant or a Catholic? However, some of the buildings have been incorporated into the National College of Art and Design, and are now protected structures. Paddy is pretty readily available in the New York Metro Area, but Ive never seen it since I left for warmer climes. For this reason, Bushmills has a bigger flavor, while Jameson has a much lighter flavor. Have heard that Jim Beam (the new owners of the Cooley distillery) may discontinue production on contracted whiskies such as this in order to focus squarely on putting Kilbeggan up against Jameson, Bushmills & Tullamore Dew. This is quite common from what I hear, and yet another argument in opposition of politicizing these two whiskies. 1. 1 line was bottling Bushmills. Anyway, both of your sources are wrong, but at least your father got the order right. If they do in fact have a Catholic Master Distiller, he is probably just the token worker. Theres not catholic or protestant whiskey. He said, no, Im Catholic, but I was born and raised in the town of Bushmills! Also, show some class fellas (Burnsy calling me an idiot) my grandfather who is from Tipperary lost friends because of the Black and Tans (you know the English convicts the English government set upon the Irish), in some cases they were beaten to death!! This is wayyyy late, and I apologize, but the record needed to be set straight. . Michael Collins is a newcomer to the market place. A bunch of bigoted b######s arguing over the religion of whiskey. In whiskey world Northern Ireland is considered to be part of the irish island so no reason to judge Bushmills to be protestant or not. I was raised Catholic by my mother after the parents divorced when I was three. Funny. All in all meaning, were I to have gone to Ireland to visit, my relatives would probably have been more confused than was I. I would wager that half the comments are from people that have never been to Irelandif I drink vodka does this make me a communist -no! Being RC from Ulster, Ive had Jameson (and other Cork products) in plenty of Prod pubs (whether in Belfast or elsewhere) and plenty of Bushmills in RC pubs (whether in Dublin or in staunch republican areas of Cork, Kerry, and elsewhere), and never been hassled over it. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. However, ownership remained in the family until 1966, and several descendants of his sisters remained at work with the company until recent times. This was the time when Protestantism, through its definitive break with Roman Catholicism, arose to take its place on the Christian map. If you dont beleive in god the whole situation would appear ridiculous. Just setting the record straight. And we should all be thankful for this. ** The Ambassador had both Jameson and Bushmills on offer. Not sure this is the right spot, but an Irish colleague and I, had this debate last week around Bushmills v Jameson in an Irish pub, here in New York. Fathers side Ulster.ancestors to America ca 1719. The new bottling hall is also taking shape even though itll be a while before the on site whiskey will be bottled. , Do note that the greatest tv show of all time, The Wire, always showed the Baltimore cops ordering Jameson in the bars, and the hero, McNulty, becomes indignant when only Bushmills is available at a partys open bar ( I guess most of the cops were Irish Catholic ), so traditions prevailed. It was one of the longest and most destructive conflicts in European history, resulting in millions of casualties. Im a Redbreast man first when feeling flush, but usually turn to Powers or the old John J when cash flow is normal. I often wonder why those Irish-Americans (usually in Irish bars of Boston or New York)who bring up this absurd and frankly bigoted discussion about Protestant & Catholic whiskey do not apply the same rule when it comes to drinking that most Irish of drinks Guinness. A great whiskey. These ideas still run deep and there are still a lot of untrue things people believe about Catholics. Now, its important to note that the Scottish Reformation occurred in 1560, so odds are in favor of the founder of the Jameson distillery, being Scottish, was a damn Protestant. Im not sure if this is truth or myth but I cannot drink Bushmills due to there even being a chance of truth in that because of the awful stories I heard about those F&[emailprotected]$&$ convicts (the black and tans) the Brits let loose on the people of Ireland. @Burnsy and Andrew: I dont drink Guiness or Jameson (for those particular reasons) I drink Paddys or Powers Whiskey and Murphys Stout!!!! Theres Whiskey and a prod or a catholic will drink it either way. As Jameson only uses the bourbon barrels once, the color and flavor is more reminiscent of American bourbon. Argument ended.. Jameson is the Catholic whiskey, Bushmills is the Protestant one, despite the efforts of the Bushmills PR department to spin it otherwise. However, this is just a rumor, but I did hear it from a pretty reliable source in the industry back in Ireland. CATHOLICISM vs PROTESTANTISM!! 1996 in coal harbour Vancouver BC. To my certain knowledge and as am employee of Bushmills (and a Catholic by birth, but an atheist by choice), you are entirely mistaken. The Holy Roman Empire Though I guess thats for a different forum. Yep, he was referring to a certain product from Bushmills.. Privacy Policy | It's been going on for thousands of years across the globe. Drink is one thing that unites Ireland it is shocking to see that some, primarily in the US, try to politicise it. Funny thing is, Jeffrey, that at the end of your debunking of the myth, you subtly reassert its validity in rightly noting that Bushmills is owned by Diageo, a company based in a largely Protestant country, while Jameson is owned by Pernod-Ricard, which is based in a predominantly Catholic country. stupid fucks In response, Guzzi This bill . so stop bringing religion into alcoholdrink what you like and leave the bigotry at the doorif people spent a few hours getting to know each other over a drink we wouldnt have half the discrimination we have today. The whiskey was originally produced in Tullamore, County Offaly, Ireland, at the . Is Misty protestant? best bang for your buck for a sipping whisky. Also how does Navan end up in a Heineken? Im also a bit confused on the cheap part. It has shaped Ireland's agriculture, literature, song and now, more than ever - our economy.. Protestant whiskey is typically made in Northern Ireland, while Catholic whiskey is made in the Republic of Ireland. Ive never even seen a bottle of Paddys (although I havent really been making an exhaustive search). But in Falls Road and Shankill Road it is not really about religion, is it? Nuts. Polarised. Like Jameson, it is blended whiskey, some combination of pure pot-still whiskey with column-still grain whiskey (allegedly 70% pure pot still to 30% grain). I have even concocted a drink for St. Patricks day,. It may not be factual, verified, or correct, but definitely true. Parents did their best to kill thatand they did. Hi and i take my hat off to Rob Mchardy answer 34..more people should be like you and the world would be a nicer place,anyway there is only one kind of whisky,the answer is in the spelling. No coffee or anything green. nant Protestant-oriented movement. Catholics represented the unstable Republican persona and therefore the company hired few people from the catholic areas. It was the anti-Catholic hiring practices that Bushmills employed in Northern Ireland that fueled the snub. Delicious, soothing, contemplative. Im married to a Protestant and my best friend and fellow whiskey hound is a also one. However, it is generally accepted that the catagory, as a whole, is spelt that way as well. Been sipping since I was a wee-lad and have tried lots of whiskey with leanings towards both Irish whiskey and Single malt Scotches. Previous Post Elements Eight Rum [3], As the distillery grew, so too did the stature of the family. Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. Peter Knox hit the nail on the head in #103 & Hey Bartender is right, giving a crap about what religion founded a whiskeys distillery is about as authentically Irish as corned beefFYI: not a single Irish person I spoke to knew had ever heard of corned beef, it wasnt in the grocery stores & certainly not on any menus. Jameson is a blended potstill whiskey (malted + Unmalted grain blended with grain whiskey). Also, what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon??? Why not stop purchasing rum to protest Spanish aggression while you are at it. These two fine whiskeys should be enjoyed in a glass and not on some pseudo-religious podium. Clean, fresh. Tulley Dew 10 Year Single Malt! One further chapter in the history that really debunks this myth is that between 1972 and 2005, both Midleton (makers of Jameson) and Bushmills were owned by the same corporation, Irish Distillers. I will be at Ninkasis B, Thanks for having me this morning to talk about ou, Last night someone was like oh wow I didnt t, HAHAHAHA Thank you @makersmark and @whisky_in_mai_, Thank you @traveloregon for having us on the start, Over the years, people have come to associate us w, We feel like most of you who have visited our litt, Ive always been one of those people who thought, http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License, Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean). #103. It is the second-largest-selling brand of Irish whiskey globally, with sales of over 1,500,000 cases per annum as of 2020. You will love this stuff. -as he grabbed the Red Breast off the shelf. Brands! For the record I have had many a session all over the island both North and south. And it really is an Irish American thing to take to finding out which is protestant and catholic lol. Catholic and Slovak-American, my personal preference is Jamesons. The company has been running since 1780 and has developed and perfected the art of producing the premium quality, top shelf, and smoothest Irish whiskey in the world today. In: St. Patrick's Day. 1 pint of stout and a halfun of Jameson.. I agree with Robert McHardy above. The new Tullamore Dew distillery is up and running the past 2 years and back in Tullamore town. . I drink and enjoy both, but based on my experience(s) in Ireland lets just say watching you order a Bushmills in Dublin would be very entertaining. And as you can check from the email address I come from Finland, a protestant country. I always love showing up with a gallon jug of pre-mixed margaritas for the party, so Ive. Now as far as whiskey goes, Im a newbie to Irish stuff but tend to love it all since I am a hard drinker for 6 plus decades. He was, I believe, top dog in the Orange Order: the vehemently anti-Catholic organization whose best-known figure is the frightening demagogue the Rev. In my opinion, its one of the blandest, albeit smoothest, whiskeys Ive tasted. Stick to the booze recommendations, the mixed drink recipes, and the things you have first-hand experience with. Concept of Deity. The spelling of whisk(e)y is actually a bit up in the air as far as that pesky e goes. And since I inherited her mothers sideboard, now repurposed as the bar in my den, I shall drink Bushmills tonight. If I had a choice between Macallan 18 and Redbreast, think Id stay Irish. We dont live in the dark ages anymore, though clearly prejudice and ignorance persist. [3] At the time the distillery had three pot stills, though only one, a 500-gallon still is thought to have been in use. The young fella attending to the store asked if I wanted Catholic or Protestant then he placed a two bottles of Bushmills on the counter one plain and one Black label. As of 2016, Paddy is the fourth largest-selling Irish whiskey in the World. Now this character I met at the bar is trying to tell me its the other way around. As long as its no longer going on in the company today then enjoy. In particular the 1951 offering of which Ive never tasted its superior. . So have a pint, pull, prayer, and lets party. Rabble Rouser, Bushmills is not total UFV (sic) territory in the slightest. My grandfather lost friends due to the awful abuses that were brought upon the Irish in the Republic by the Englishs Black and Tans, rumor has it the original owner of Bushmills was granted the right to distill due to the fact he helped suppress the Irish in the north from uprising against the British. Fast forward 60 years. 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